tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post3915927288306686793..comments2024-01-29T22:48:07.946-08:00Comments on The Filthy Platen: Filthy Labs: the PTFE conclusionScott Khttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13243020164163596709noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-18700504936221962042013-03-07T07:41:57.882-08:002013-03-07T07:41:57.882-08:00Scott, no problem. My e-mail address is rob (at) r...Scott, no problem. My e-mail address is rob (at) robbowkerphotography.com. Reading through the replies here, and the mixed responses to WD40, my guess (just that) is that WD40 has been applied to previously over-lubed machines and has dissolved it, evaporated the oil and left a residue which isn't actualy part of the WD40 but the lube that was there before. That's just a guess though. On previously bone dry but troublesome segments I have used very small drops (I hold the can with nozzle attached and barely press the valve) and not seen any subsequent sticky residue - in fact nothing visible at all. I'm not even remotely a chemist but the WD40 website does day it lubricates. I look forward to hearing from you.Rob Bowkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12065940710708289511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-82733933432209062702013-03-07T01:59:33.022-08:002013-03-07T01:59:33.022-08:00I don't see why Silicon lube with be a problem...I don't see why Silicon lube with be a problem at all. I'm curious to check some of that out too. Silicon would have great heat resistance properties, and would do especially well in electrical typewriters. <br /><br />Something to look into. Scott Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13243020164163596709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-42043600930122455812013-03-07T01:57:57.422-08:002013-03-07T01:57:57.422-08:00I would love to get hold of some PB blaster. Alas....I would love to get hold of some PB blaster. Alas... it is difficult to get in Australia. Scott Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13243020164163596709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-57263774429834850142013-03-07T01:57:27.829-08:002013-03-07T01:57:27.829-08:00The stuff I'm using doesn't leave a white ...The stuff I'm using doesn't leave a white finish, but I am applying it with a syringe and a needle - which I have found is the most effective way to use it. Scott Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13243020164163596709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-43276772503106106702013-03-07T01:56:01.387-08:002013-03-07T01:56:01.387-08:00Give it a go. It seemed to clean out the WD40 beau...Give it a go. It seemed to clean out the WD40 beautifully, and lubed it up very nicely. Scott Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13243020164163596709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-41057821338910780102013-03-07T01:54:49.980-08:002013-03-07T01:54:49.980-08:00Coming soon...... Coming soon...... Scott Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13243020164163596709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-36649174361551791412013-03-07T01:54:38.451-08:002013-03-07T01:54:38.451-08:00Ha ha ha. I wish I could make money researching ho...Ha ha ha. I wish I could make money researching how to fix typewriters! Scott Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13243020164163596709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-5334836860041041962013-03-07T01:54:07.701-08:002013-03-07T01:54:07.701-08:00Rob, do you mind if I email you and ask you about ...Rob, do you mind if I email you and ask you about your results? I'm doing a bit of research on this, and I'm curious about how it has worked in people's machines. Scott Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13243020164163596709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-69507656439418696192013-03-07T01:52:55.268-08:002013-03-07T01:52:55.268-08:00Well, this machine has been baking in the cupboard...Well, this machine has been baking in the cupboard here in a hot Brisbane summer for 3 or so months now. The previous WD40 turned to goop within 3 months over winter, while the Teflon spray has showed no signs of deteriorating. Scott Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13243020164163596709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-79238141303014243832013-03-07T01:51:06.105-08:002013-03-07T01:51:06.105-08:00Mmmm... I've been looking into the WD 40 issue...Mmmm... I've been looking into the WD 40 issue in the past few days, and I have to say... My research supports your point of view. I'm curious as to why it has such a bad reputation now. Scott Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13243020164163596709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-53111038248384571122013-03-07T01:50:06.083-08:002013-03-07T01:50:06.083-08:00You noticed! I did that about 2 weeks ago! You lik...You noticed! I did that about 2 weeks ago! You like? Scott Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13243020164163596709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-20536581208916456692013-03-06T16:53:48.800-08:002013-03-06T16:53:48.800-08:00Go Teflon!
Been using it on a rusted shut Rhienmet...Go Teflon!<br />Been using it on a rusted shut Rhienmetall and it's been doing wonders. <br /><br />On a different note:<br />HEY YOU CHANGED YOUR BANNER!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-26259339678517146172013-03-04T09:12:12.308-08:002013-03-04T09:12:12.308-08:00I've used WD-40 for many years and have never ...I've used WD-40 for many years and have never experienced the "gumming" that some people claim it causes. I've found that it dries cleanly, leaving little if any residue at all. Although it was designed for water displacement, many other uses have been found, including as a solvent. It is not intended for long-term lubrication, however. I don't see a problem using WD-40 to loosen and flush out old grease and dirt, but a proper lubricant should be applied afterward. It also is a decent rust-preventer as it doesn't leave a heavy film that attracts dust.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-40962982194759241982013-03-04T08:37:05.071-08:002013-03-04T08:37:05.071-08:00Dose makes the poison, as they say. I think Rob...Dose makes the poison, as they say. I think Rob's usage (tiny drops) is preferable. WD-40 is, after all, a (W)ater (D)isplacer, with a propellant in there. It certainly can help remove crud from the works, but common usage by the uninitiated is to just keep spraying the stuff until things loosen up.<br /><br />LONG TERM is where the problems arise: the water-displacing substance likes to form a shellac-like surface on the parts. Here's where the degreaser is necessary. A California summer is hot and dry, and I have an SM3 that was once coated in WD-40 and then garage-baked through many such summers. If the Teflon spray has better long-term tolerance for heat and doesn't leave any gummy, gluey surprises behind, I'll be happy to use it. I save the WD-40 to rejuvenate old ribbons.mpclemenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12807147515549175803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-44205734905626647562013-03-04T08:26:49.447-08:002013-03-04T08:26:49.447-08:00I am sure much to many folks's dismay, I have ...I am sure much to many folks's dismay, I have been using WD40 for years, sometimes even in a jammed segment, more often on little lever pivots (the bell clapper on SM3s for example). Wherever I have used it, it has been the tiniest drop - it does seem to have some lubricating properties. I have no experience of it leaving a gummy residue. More recently, I have experimented with lighter fluid, especially to clean type heads (like you put in a Zippo) which I believe is what's called naptha in some parts. This works a treat. The very best method so far that I have found for cleaning out the segment of all those cat hairs, eraser crumbs and dust, is compressed air (don't laugh, I use a bike pump with a football needle adapter) and the help of a small water colour brush. If there are still type bars that stick after that, the merest breath of WD40 vapour seems to prove a lasting result.Rob Bowkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12065940710708289511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-8414809737473032372013-03-03T17:15:19.194-08:002013-03-03T17:15:19.194-08:00Very good research. We need an institute and gran...Very good research. We need an institute and grants to expand our research.notagainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02915679111849352765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-48773142191760366252013-03-03T14:02:56.118-08:002013-03-03T14:02:56.118-08:00I think we need a long-term study comparing WD-40 ...I think we need a long-term study comparing WD-40 and PTFE.maschinengeschriebenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01955578932937697125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-88696217820385769512013-03-03T12:22:00.654-08:002013-03-03T12:22:00.654-08:00Of course, I always follow up with a good blow thr...Of course, I always follow up with a good blow through with an air compressor. Also, I am very wary about protecting decals, to ensure they are never harmed in any way.Robert Messengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04366507489948676594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-19993395324869903292013-03-03T12:20:00.525-08:002013-03-03T12:20:00.525-08:00I meant naphtha, of course, sorry ...I meant naphtha, of course, sorry ...Robert Messengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04366507489948676594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-2636931738962282652013-03-03T12:18:54.859-08:002013-03-03T12:18:54.859-08:00I never studied science so I haven't a clue wh...I never studied science so I haven't a clue what I'm talking about. However, I have tried a lot of different sprays on typewriters and for many years now one that I have found works very well for me (without any sign of ever gumming up) is mostly naphthan based with a small amount of paraffin oil in it. It cleans and lubes all over without leaving any trace - for example, I take great care to keep degreasers away from plastic surfaces or paintwork, because they can take the sheen off. One lube I avoid is lithium based, because it will leave that white residue Richard mentioned. However, a silicone based lube seems to me OK? Am I talking nonsense here? Is this misguided? As far as I can tell, the evidence suggests this lube I generally use works well.Robert Messengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04366507489948676594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-78557122087887273312013-03-03T06:56:46.811-08:002013-03-03T06:56:46.811-08:00I've always been over-confident about my typer...I've always been over-confident about my typers not being prone to gumming up until it happened to two of my machines twice. In both cases, PB Blaster worked and worked almost instantly. But the chemical smell is overpowering, it takes a week to disappear. <br /><br />The teflon spray is something I'm willing to try.Ton S. https://www.blogger.com/profile/10691201724230891974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-68655870639900466622013-03-03T06:32:36.274-08:002013-03-03T06:32:36.274-08:00Thanks for this research!
After your initial pos...Thanks for this research! <br /><br />After your initial posts on Teflon lube I impatiently got myself some wet and dry versions of the stuff. I have been using the wet with success, although I don't know that it's better than PB B'laster (stinks less, though). The dry (manufactured by Remington Arms!) is difficult for me to apply properly; they say that if it leaves a white residue you're applying to much, but I can't seem to avoid a residue no matter how delicately I spray.Richard Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16232053429935587826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-81540589272326921052013-03-03T06:31:51.513-08:002013-03-03T06:31:51.513-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Richard Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16232053429935587826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-19587768879391990712013-03-03T04:19:36.597-08:002013-03-03T04:19:36.597-08:00Next WD-40 typewriter I get I will give the Teflon...Next WD-40 typewriter I get I will give the Teflon spray a try. <br />Bill Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14649212489891769390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2120715572940256008.post-66853137903491259632013-03-03T04:18:37.643-08:002013-03-03T04:18:37.643-08:00In my experience I've found WD-40 dries to a s...In my experience I've found WD-40 dries to a sticky goo that will inhibit moving parts. WD-40 is not a lube. <br /><br />I have use Teflon dry-lube, but not as much as you did. I used it on specific type bars and it works fantastic. <br /><br />The product I found to remove dried on and gooy WD-40 is the Zep product in our parts degreaser at work. It did wonders for my SM-7.<br /><br />I also find my Adlers to be the smoothest machines in my collection, especially the nearly frictionless carriage return. Very silky smooth. None of mine were gunked with WD-40 nor did I lube any with Teflon, just a light coating of gun oil.Bill Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14649212489891769390noreply@blogger.com