You know... I like typewriters, and I like to think I know a fair bit about them. But every so often I come across a machine that reminds me that, simply put, I don't know jack.
The mystery Baby in all its glory. Click to enlarge and have a good look at the keyboard.
I'm not in the business of collecting typewriters for the sake of unusual or unique variations of machines. I like typewriters for their beauty and their artistry. I like them for their functionality and form. I appreciate them for the history they bring with them, and I love them for the feeling I get when I write with one.
I didn't need another Hermes baby, but I saw this guy on eBay and I threw my hat in the ring simply because I noticed a couple of odd characters on the keyboard. Auction day came and no one else bid, and so it became mine for a wallet hurting $15. Not only was it cheap, but it was about a 5 minute drive from where I work to collect it.
As you can see by the screen grab above, the seller only photographed half the keyboard. The other photos were blurry, and the description simply read:
Antique Portable Typewriter and carry case.
Hermes Baby - typewriter.
I think this might have been used in a hospital in the 50's - there is in pen " Room 3" on the lid of the typewriter.
So I arrived at the seller's address at the appointed time, only to find that the seller was selling on behalf of the very much still alive owner of the machine - a quite senior and very lovely lady who was a former nurse. It appeared that her son was selling off a fair few of her possessions, or 'house clutter', and it was mostly piled up in the garage of the house - awaiting collection.
I had a brief discussion with the lady, but her son was getting quite impatient. He demonstrated his expert experience of typewriters by banging the keys and showing the carriage shifted - before telling me "Everything works on this typewriter as a typewriter should".
But I wanted to know more about the machine. Once I was able to get a full look at keyboard, I noticed that it was significantly different to any of the other typewriter keyboards I had seen before. On the right hand side of the typewriter there was a whole host of characters I found that were unusual.
"I bought it new when I was doing a business course before I became a nurse in the 60's" The lady explained "Its German made you know, and that's a German keyboard. It was made by Hermes - a very good company". She actually pronounced Hermes correctly too. The son argued a couple of points - insisting that it was the 50's. But she just looked confused about what he was saying, and tried to correct him that she bought it early to mid 60's. Also, it turned out that typewriter had never been near a hospital. I suspected the son was just obfuscating things to cover for the rather factually incorrect advertisement. Not that I cared about the advertisement, as I had long learned to disregard most of what a seller says on an eBay posting.
It most certainly wasn't a German keyboard, and I suggested this to the owner. I then muttered something about it being Swiss made, but she just nodded and said "That's a German keyboard".
The son shuffled about to display his impatience and suggest that the trade - and our business, was done. I was hoping to have a bit more of a chat, but it was obvious that this wasn't going to happen. So I just picked up my now paid for typewriter, said a gracious thank-you, and left.
The son shuffled about to display his impatience and suggest that the trade - and our business, was done. I was hoping to have a bit more of a chat, but it was obvious that this wasn't going to happen. So I just picked up my now paid for typewriter, said a gracious thank-you, and left.
I got the Baby home and then started to inspect the machine. Lo and behold, the (now former) owner was right. It WAS made in Germany.
I was a little stumped by this, but that was far from the last surprise for the afternoon. I had never heard of these machines being made in Germany before.
The typewriter wasn't made of plastic, but rather metal. This is the third Hermes Baby of this era I have come across, and the first that didn't appear to have been belted to a near pulp. This machine had been well used, but also quite looked after. I've found the metal on this version of the Hermes Baby to be the closest thing that you can find to play-doh, that is still a metal.
I also bet about half the readers that read this blog just silently nodded their head in agreement.
So - I cracked open the case to have a look at the serial number, and found 9006303, which oddly didn't tie into a number range that was covered on Ted's excellent Serial number Database.
The typewriter wasn't made of plastic, but rather metal. This is the third Hermes Baby of this era I have come across, and the first that didn't appear to have been belted to a near pulp. This machine had been well used, but also quite looked after. I've found the metal on this version of the Hermes Baby to be the closest thing that you can find to play-doh, that is still a metal.
I also bet about half the readers that read this blog just silently nodded their head in agreement.
So - I cracked open the case to have a look at the serial number, and found 9006303, which oddly didn't tie into a number range that was covered on Ted's excellent Serial number Database.
Okay... I thought. Let's just try typing with this machine.
And this is where it got weird. Not only did it have a better type feel than any other baby that I have ever owned or seen, but some other things seemed especially odd.
As you can see in the photo at the top of the page, the numbers are shift access only. But it isn't just the numbers. It's the full stop, and some other important characters as well. Then there was the ∘ character, which I just couldn't line up with any keyboard, character map or language alphabet at all.
I looked for currency symbols, only to find none. I was stumped.
I almost made a phone call to my friend Ray, who is a Linguist, when I stopped myself and just thought - "Rob Messenger will know, surely"!
Rob Messenger - Oztypewriter
It's a safe bet to ask Rob. He's got a vast head for a broad spectrum of details, and has been collecting for a lot longer than a lot of people i know. So I made Rob my first port of call. I'd been exchanging emails with Rob that afternoon over other matters, so I just dropped a mention of this machine into another email.
Amazingly, Rob got back to me within minutes. He wasn't absolutely certain, but he suggested that the machine had a "Brazilian 2" keyboard.
Coming from Rob, this was a suggestion that I was quite inclined to agree with. He'd gone through some reference material at a speed that would have to have been nothing but phenomenal, and had come up with what i knew would be an educated suggestion.
Rob also suggested that I have a chat with Georg Sommeregger, as he was much more extensively versed in the ways of the Hermes machines, and would know more about how a Hermes Baby come to be made in Germany - and possibly more on the keyboard.
Georg Sommeregger - Sommeregger's Sommelsuirum and Hermes Baby
Rob was right. As it was, Georg has a very strong knowledge on the German made Hermes baby. Georg told me a little about where the machine was made, and where it sat in relationship to the then existing Hermes factory (not very far at all, incidentally). And that he also lived in the same area.
It was quite fascinating. Georg also suggested that the machine was made in the earlier phase of Pailards manufacturing of the Baby in Germany, which would put the machine's manufacture around 1965. This was great news, as it matched up with the time-frame which the previous owner claimed to have bought the typewriter new.
So in my mind, the mysteries of the date and location of manufacture were solved.
Georg also made a suggestion about the keyboard. He sent me a scan of a character map for a Gossen Tippa - that showed the 'Italiano' layout of their keyboards. The layout was almost identical to the layout of my Hermes - except for two crucial differences. Firstly it didn't have an ∘ on the keyboard, but had a ∘ instead. Also, the Italiano keyboard layout was QZERTY, and not QWERTY.
The rest of the keyboard, including the shifted full-stop (period) matched perfectly.
I thanked Georg as he'd been a great help, and then messaged Rob with the findings - confident that Georg's suggestion of it being 'possibly a variation of the Italiano keyboard' was right. Rob however was a little more skeptical.
And this is where it got weird. Not only did it have a better type feel than any other baby that I have ever owned or seen, but some other things seemed especially odd.
As you can see in the photo at the top of the page, the numbers are shift access only. But it isn't just the numbers. It's the full stop, and some other important characters as well. Then there was the ∘ character, which I just couldn't line up with any keyboard, character map or language alphabet at all.
I looked for currency symbols, only to find none. I was stumped.
I almost made a phone call to my friend Ray, who is a Linguist, when I stopped myself and just thought - "Rob Messenger will know, surely"!
Just catching a few rays on the deck; trying to tan up that European paleness.
Rob Messenger - Oztypewriter
It's a safe bet to ask Rob. He's got a vast head for a broad spectrum of details, and has been collecting for a lot longer than a lot of people i know. So I made Rob my first port of call. I'd been exchanging emails with Rob that afternoon over other matters, so I just dropped a mention of this machine into another email.
Amazingly, Rob got back to me within minutes. He wasn't absolutely certain, but he suggested that the machine had a "Brazilian 2" keyboard.
Coming from Rob, this was a suggestion that I was quite inclined to agree with. He'd gone through some reference material at a speed that would have to have been nothing but phenomenal, and had come up with what i knew would be an educated suggestion.
Rob also suggested that I have a chat with Georg Sommeregger, as he was much more extensively versed in the ways of the Hermes machines, and would know more about how a Hermes Baby come to be made in Germany - and possibly more on the keyboard.
Georg Sommeregger - Sommeregger's Sommelsuirum and Hermes Baby
Rob was right. As it was, Georg has a very strong knowledge on the German made Hermes baby. Georg told me a little about where the machine was made, and where it sat in relationship to the then existing Hermes factory (not very far at all, incidentally). And that he also lived in the same area.
It was quite fascinating. Georg also suggested that the machine was made in the earlier phase of Pailards manufacturing of the Baby in Germany, which would put the machine's manufacture around 1965. This was great news, as it matched up with the time-frame which the previous owner claimed to have bought the typewriter new.
So in my mind, the mysteries of the date and location of manufacture were solved.
Georg also made a suggestion about the keyboard. He sent me a scan of a character map for a Gossen Tippa - that showed the 'Italiano' layout of their keyboards. The layout was almost identical to the layout of my Hermes - except for two crucial differences. Firstly it didn't have an ∘ on the keyboard, but had a ∘ instead. Also, the Italiano keyboard layout was QZERTY, and not QWERTY.
The rest of the keyboard, including the shifted full-stop (period) matched perfectly.
I thanked Georg as he'd been a great help, and then messaged Rob with the findings - confident that Georg's suggestion of it being 'possibly a variation of the Italiano keyboard' was right. Rob however was a little more skeptical.
Natalie Tan - NatsLapTaps
Meanwhile, I had been spit-balling a few ideas with a few people on facebook. Nat made an interesting suggestion about the ∘ key, and suggested that it was used to write N∘ - as it was a common abbreviation of 'Number'. My Cyrillic Hermes has a N∘ key for this specific purpose, so I was a little cynical of this idea. Nat also then suggested that the machine perhaps had been set up to write lots of numbers, and names in capital letters - hence why those important functions, including writing N∘, were all achievable with the keyboard caps locked.
Emigrant keyboards.
While talking to Georg, I wrote that I felt that the Italiano keyboard made a lot of sense - particularly as Australia had taken in a lot of post war refugees, and economic refugees. One of the largest groups represented in this mass migration to Australia - were the Italians. The Greeks followed soon after, and subsequently made Melbourne famous for having the largest Greek population outside of Greece.
A lot of these migrant groups formed communities in Australia, and it wasn't unusual to find their languages and customs being continued in various areas.
Anyone my age or older, can remember exactly what Lygon street in Melbourne used to be like - before it became a tourist attraction. And then there's Franco Cozzo - who crammed Italian, Greek and English into his television commercials in the 80's. Not to mention crammed his show-rooms full of truly ugly furniture (and somehow drugs, but that's another story).
Anyone my age or older, can remember exactly what Lygon street in Melbourne used to be like - before it became a tourist attraction. And then there's Franco Cozzo - who crammed Italian, Greek and English into his television commercials in the 80's. Not to mention crammed his show-rooms full of truly ugly furniture (and somehow drugs, but that's another story).
Oh, the Nostalgia!
Foot-as-cray! (sorry, local in-joke. Teeritz and John are likely to get it).
I could almost see the raised eyebrow in Georg's reply email. This time around, he sent me a couple of examples of a 'Lithuanian emigration' keyboard. The emigration keyboard layout he showed me went from the traditional AŠERTZ keyboard, to a QWERTZ layout (migrating to Germany perhaps?), while still retaining much of the character map and layout outside of the figurative characters.
The suggestion was that perhaps this machine of mine had been designed specifically for Italians that were migrating to Australia. However, there wasn't any concrete evidence to suggest that this machine could be such a machine.
No one seems to be certain about the nature of this keyboard and who it may have been made for. What also remains a mystery, is how this machine came to be owned by an Anglo-Australian nurse - who bought it new from the show-room. Natalie made a suggestion that a shop might have sold it at a discounted rate to her, which may have encouraged her to buy such a machine. But unfortunately I'm not in a position to easily check out this idea.
So there we have it! The mystery Baby. A machine that seems to have a blurred history that hints at an interesting story of humanity at almost every turn. Stories that seem sort of painfully just outside of my reach.
I like this little machine. If I'm going to use it, I know I'm going to struggle a bit with the shifted full-stop. And its story very much intrigues me. If you have any suggestions or ideas about this machine, please leave a comment below.
I also really appreciate the help I got from Rob, Georg and Natalie. Thanks guys!
I can't believe I seriously mentioned Franco Cozzo in a semi-serious way on my blog. Also, if this is indeed an Italiano keyboard, does this mean that the typewriter should be really called a "Hermes Bambino"?
I like this little machine. If I'm going to use it, I know I'm going to struggle a bit with the shifted full-stop. And its story very much intrigues me. If you have any suggestions or ideas about this machine, please leave a comment below.
I also really appreciate the help I got from Rob, Georg and Natalie. Thanks guys!
I can't believe I seriously mentioned Franco Cozzo in a semi-serious way on my blog. Also, if this is indeed an Italiano keyboard, does this mean that the typewriter should be really called a "Hermes Bambino"?
Wow what an intersting typewriter and post! I would have gone for it too.
ReplyDeleteSometimes... You just can't let them pass up, hey!
DeleteWhat a great post. Great tale, and the Franco Cozzo commercial adds just the right amount of spice. Bravisimo!
ReplyDeleteThank you! That Franco Cozzo commercial is a bet of an icon to Melbournians - as amateurish is it appears. But, it did kind of illustrate the point I was trying to make.
DeleteFascinating keyboard! Our Rocket is from that same era (1964) and body style, so I know what you mean when you say it feels much better than your other Baby/Rockets to type on. I've always felt that the mid/late 60's Rockets seemed to be where Hermes really got the typing touch right - just after the gull-wing ribbon covers and before they started making the shells out of plastic.
ReplyDeleteHopefully you will find out more on the mystery keyboard as the research continues (:
I hope I'll find more too.
DeleteMost certainly this machine is the best of the baby machines - as far as typing is concerned. I just wish they made them out of a metal that was a little more robust. I have two of this era which are virtually crumpled drink cans.
Yeah, the shell on ours is fairly dented and crumpled too. I dunno why, it doesn't look like it's taken any major hits, but people must've banged these on the edges of desks and such a lot. Still types great :D
DeleteOne of mine has been relegated to a parts machine. Machine 2 is going to ultimately be fixed, and hopefully be my 'on the run' writer. This guy, unit three, is... well... I'm not sure yet.
DeleteWhat a delightful mystery. I didn't know that Hermes manufactured in Germany, either.
ReplyDeleteThe keyboard sure isn't Brazilian, because Portuguese requires ã and õ.
Italian accents are grave (ù, è, etc.) so those keys would help in writing Italian. (But why not just have a ` dead key?)
The ç would help with French, but then why not have ´and ˆ accents?
The º is used in Spanish as in 3º, 4º (tercero, cuarto = 3rd, 4th). But Spanish keyboards also have an elevated small a for when you need a feminine ending.
I just checked my red Olivetti MP1 ICO with Italian keyboard. It's very similar, including the shift to get a period, but QZERTY as you said.
My conclusion: this is a variant on the Italian keyboard, but QWERTY instead of QZERTY, much as a few German typewriters have QWERTY German keyboards.
PS: The son sounds like an S.O.B.
Not sure what was happening with the son. He was great on the phone. I just don't think he wanted a $15 sale to take up his entire day.
DeleteAs for the Ico keyboard, that's largely the reason Rob, and I guess everyone else is skeptical about this machine being Italiano. It's a bit of a major sticking block, because it doesn't really make much sense to make minor changes to the keyboard lay out, just for an emigration machine.
But then again, if Nat's theory is right, then it was probably sold cheaply because the people that it was supposedly made for, didn't actually buy it.
Thanks for the info the Spanish use of that character. What sets this machine apart, is that the character is underlined. Something I just can't match up anywhere else.
The º is underlined on Spanish keyboards too, I just didn't know how to represent that using my computer keyboard.
DeleteAH! I'm with you now. I couldn't find it on any character maps, so I just underlined it to represent it.
DeleteKeyboard envy. Congratulations - that's a lovely character set (and you don't hear that too often these days) :-)
ReplyDeleteHa ha ha. Thanks Rob! I feel this machine is going to be a keeper - even though I don't have a practical use for it. It's a great little machine.
DeleteAnother great find Scott, I remember seeing those keyboards before but can't remember where I am puzzled aseveryone else. Franco Cozzo was a great character, especially his Brunsvik Footiscray!! he eventually added a "Norda" Melbourne to his chain of stores selling the most hideous furniture. Just goes to show people buy any thing if it is promoted properly. His son was the druggo and got done for dealing, I think it shattered Franco.
DeleteSticking to the Hermes theme I am currently working on a very nice jet black 2000 and I am slowly bringing it back to life. It main feature is that it has a Hungarian key board. On an other subject, I wonder if anyone knows of a site where we can swap/buy spare parts? I am looking for the "L" keytop for a Blick and a feedroller for the same. In return I can help with Royal,Hermes, Adler and other machines. Just ask, I my have it.
John, I'm itching to see the results of that H2K. I do like the era of design of the H2K, and I reckon with your knowledge you'll make a great running machine. Hungarian keyboard! That sounds very intriguing! If only these machines could tell their history. A H2K era Hungarian keyboard kind of implies that it may have travelled with someone fleeing the Hungarian revolution.
DeleteFabulous post, Scott. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteHere's wikipedia, on the accent grave:
A general rule is that in Italian, words ending with stressed -a, -i, -o, -u must be marked with a grave accent. Words ending with stressed -e may bear either an acute accent or a grave accent, depending on whether the final 'e' sound is closed or open, respectively. Some examples of words with a final grave accent are: città "city", morì "[he/she] died", virtù "virtue", Mosè "Moses", portò "[he/she/it] brought, carried".
Which begs the question: why the ç, which is not, so far as I know, used in Italian.
Might it be a Provençal typewriter? This would explain the cedilla and the grave accents.
Improbable. Possible?
Rob
AH! This is a theory worth looking into. That's deepened the mystery a little bit, but as they say - the unexplained is always inspiration. That's an idea that is more than worth looking into.
DeleteNot provençal, as the "i" needs an acute accent... This keyboard is nearly fully set like a french AZERTY : shifted figures and full stop, ù, à, é, è, ( and ) location, etc. BUT QWERTY and M on first row are definitely not french !
DeleteIntriguing machine, Scott. And, as rn has stated, there aren't any words in Italian that require that little hooky underhang on the lowercase letter 'c'.
ReplyDeleteAs for Franco Cozzo, if I never see or hear one of his ads again, it'll be too soon. I knew his daughter, though. She was a nice girl. Very pleasant personality.
My guess is that the buyer just wanted a 'qwerty' keyboard in Germany and that was the easiest/cheapest/quickest one to sell to her. A German 'qwertz' keyboard on a typewriter is, at first, annoying to use when you type in English and are used to 'qwerty'. You learn very fast how very often the letter 'y' is used in the English language and how much of a workout your left pinkie will get.
ReplyDeleteIn those days it could also happen that typing slugs could be swapped and re-souldered. If you have a non-German speaker wanting a keyboard and you want to offload your stock of foreign-keyboard machines, a swap of the 'z' and the 'w' wouldn't necessarily be a big deal.
Just guesses of course.
My guess is that the buyer just wanted a 'qwerty' keyboard in Germany and that was the easiest/cheapest/quickest one to sell to her. A German 'qwertz' keyboard on a typewriter is, at first, annoying to use when you type in English and are used to 'qwerty'. You learn very fast how very often the letter 'y' is used in the English language and how much of a workout your left pinkie will get.
ReplyDeleteIn those days it could also happen that typing slugs could be swapped and re-souldered. If you have a non-German speaker wanting a keyboard and you want to offload your stock of foreign-keyboard machines, a swap of the 'z' and the 'w' wouldn't necessarily be a big deal.
Just guesses of course.
Hey I really enjoyed this post . I too ordered a hermes baby and unfortunatly did not know of this feature. I am a bit sad as I use typewriters to type and was looking forward to use this one. Is there any way to switch out the keys and make it a standard american typewriter? I dont quite see myself relearning how to type on a different keyboard. Thanks!!
ReplyDeleteHey I really enjoyed this post . I too ordered a hermes baby and unfortunatly did not know of this feature. I am a bit sad as I use typewriters to type and was looking forward to use this one. Is there any way to switch out the keys and make it a standard american typewriter? I dont quite see myself relearning how to type on a different keyboard. Thanks!!
ReplyDeleteI just bought one of these beautifiul machines from ebay as well. unfortunately I did not know it was configured this way. I type alot on typewriters and was looking forward to using this machine but I do not want / do not have the use for learning the german keyboard. is there any way to switch keys around? Will you be leaving it as such?
ReplyDeleteYes! Yes there is. You can actually un-solder and re-solder the typeslugs. It's tricky work, that needs a bit of skill, but it can be done. To be honest, these machines come up frequently on eBay, and go reasonably cheaply. It's just on-sell yours, and buy another, which would be easier.
DeleteCant sleep so reading up on old blog posts I missed - very interesting! Im gonna have to start checking keyboards and nody material on any hermes I see out in the wild
ReplyDeleteJust picked up a Made in Germany Hermes baby for $20. Until now was unable to find much info on it. Great read, thanks for posting!
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